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    Hey folks! Just a reminder to everyone that the Podcast Crew is now taking your questions to be answered on air during the GamesAreFun Podcast! Send us a question or comment at GAFPodcast@gmail.com! Anything and everything will be revealed!

    (Editor's Note: Everything and anything can and will be subjected to a screening process in which we filter out any kind of personality your email may have, including but not limited to: inquiries as to the size of members of the Podcast Crew's body parts, comments about how the Podcast Crew's parents are in bed, fart jokes, Al Roker's nether regions, Chuck Norris, the location of the Star Wars kid, and generally off color comments and/or questions. You have been warned.)

    So send us a question today!
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    Posted By: herooftimegafcomments about how the Podcast Crew's parents are in bed

    Dear God, man, where do you get these crazy ideas of yours?

    But please, send mail. If we get a good question (i.e., one that's genuinely interesting) we'll spend some of our time in the podcast answering it.
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      CommentAuthorKirinEvans
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2008
     
    Though as a side note, I will answer any and all questions concerning MacGyver.
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      CommentAuthordrumlord
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2008
     
    My question: How come you haven't had cool people like the head of GAF on the show? ;)
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    Posted By: drumlordMy question: How come you haven't had cool people like the head of GAF on the show? ;)

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    Brandon, I'll leave that one to you.

    ::runs::
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    We're working on getting everybody in as a regular! Chris and Steven are our first two regulars, I'm sure Rich and tonight's "guest", Andy Thornton, will also become regulars.

    Larry and I try and rotate the 3rd spot each week, the 4th spot is for the guest. For example, this week we're probably going to have Steven as our third, unless Rich wants to jump on and be our 3rd tonight!
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    Pffft, haven't had me on to get into long tangents, either.

    Bastards. :fingersear:
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      CommentAuthorPolster
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
     
    I could be a guest too since I have my internet radio show, I've had 3 years experience on internet radio!
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    Please remember that this is the topic for the Mailbag; you can post your questions here or let us know you've submitted a question to our email address.

    Keep in mind that we still need mail!! We'd like a few letter for our next show, so get to askin' them questions, folks!!
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    I have a question, since I'm too lazy to send it in:

    What's your opinion on girl gamers?
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    I have a Q:

    What's your take on the current trend of games getting massively huge scores from reviewers? Do games like Mario Galaxy and GTA IV really deserve average scores of 98 out of 100, or are reviewers over-blowing things?

    Personally, I think the current review system is a joke, and needs a serious overhaul. I don't think it needs to be as harsh (or obviously skewed towards the artsy) as the movie review system is, but I definitely don't think that simple evolutions of previous games like SMB and GTAIV deserve to be considered nearly "perfect."

    There are plenty of things that I can find wrong with a "sandbox" game like GTA. There are hundreds of things that I would change about that game. And even the story, for being a "top-notch" effort when it comes to gaming, is absolutely terrible when compared to a good novel or film. We deserve more, as gamers. We shouldn't allow devs and publishers to be content with the mediocre, emaciated games they throw at us year after year. I think it's stunting the growth of the industry.
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      CommentAuthordrumlord
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: i_like_pizzaPersonally, I think the current review system is a joke, and needs a serious overhaul.
    There is no one review system.

    Posted By: i_like_pizzaI definitely don't think that simple evolutions of previous games like SMB and GTAIV deserve to be considered nearly "perfect."
    You put it in quotes so whom are you quoting? Most reviewers would tell you that their top score does not equal "perfect." Typically it means something closer to "among the best." If a reviewer or outlet chooses to make their top score mean perfect, that's their problem and not the industry's.

    Posted By: i_like_pizzaI think it's stunting the growth of the industry.
    The industry continues to have record growth despite a weak economy particularly for the middle class that makes up most video game purchasers.
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    Posted By: i_like_pizzaI have a Q:

    What's your take on the current trend of games getting massively huge scores from reviewers? Do games like Mario Galaxy and GTA IV really deserve average scores of 98 out of 100, or are reviewers over-blowing things?

    Personally, I think the current review system is a joke, and needs a serious overhaul. I don't think it needs to be as harsh (or obviously skewed towards the artsy) as the movie review system is, but I definitely don't think that simple evolutions of previous games like SMB and GTAIV deserve to be considered nearly "perfect."


    Reviews are opinions. Everyone has a different opinion.

    Also, as Rich said, there is no one set review system. Some places have a rating of 1-5 (numbers, stars, etc.), some have a 1-10 or 1-100. Some use a grading system similar to school (F-A(+)). Some with variations (half points, .1 increments, etc.).

    As Rich said, considering 10/100/5 stars/whatever highest score possible "perfect" is normally the wrong way to look at things. Unfortunately, it seems many people (especially online) seem to think that those highest scores mean "perfect". Thus you get all the armchair experts saying why something shouldn't be considered perfect when review sites/magazines because of X, Y, and Z.

    Most review sites don't consider the highest score as "perfect", GAF included. They tend to use it as a way of saying that the game is pretty much a great experience in that genre. Sites that use their highest score as "perfect" tend to do so just so they can say they have never given out that score and sound like they are the way to judge games because no game will ever get "perfect" because nothing is perfect.
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    There is no one set reviewing system for the movie industry either, but quite often you see movies getting universal praise or universal criticism. It is the same in the game industry. The same thing that pleases one reviewer greatly is likely to please one reviewer greatly as well.

    I know that most people wouldn't regard a perfect score as a perfect game. But the fact is that if a game isn't perfect, it doesn't deserve the highest score possible. Then it becomes impossible to distinguish between games which have supposedly reached the upper echelon.

    But I don't even really want to get into that.

    My gripe against the system (even though there is no "unified system" there really is) is that games are receiving too high of scores, suggesting that they are better than they really are. If a game gets 98%, I better not have any complaints about that game or even hear of any complaints about that game. Without a doubt, I believe that SMG was the best game of last year, but I wouldn't have given it more than a 9/10. There were a lot of people who had legitimate gripes against that game, and it was just a simple evolution of what had already been put forth in SM64 and SMS. These games that we're playing and accepting as great games are not really that great. There is so much more that could be done with them.

    I gave you a legitimate question for the mailbag, and I got two responses that weren't really even in response to what I was talking about. So, unless you get it now, don't bother responding in the mailbag. Oh, and for another view on this similar to mine, I believe vgchartz.com has an article about this call "this one goes to 11" or something like that. It talks about some of the things that I have said, that with so many "perfect" scores, we're just prolonging the current state of mediocrity in the gaming industry. We have announced what we expect our games to be, and it's not really all that great.
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      CommentAuthori_like_pizza
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: drumlordThe industry continues to have record growth despite a weak economy particularly for the middle class that makes up most video game purchasers.


    I wasn't talking about fiscal growth. I was talking about the evolution of games. We have been playing pretty much the same exact games for over 20 years now.

    There's certainly no need to be so condescending as you seem.
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      CommentAuthordrumlord
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: i_like_pizzaI gave you a legitimate question for the mailbag, and I got two responses that weren't really even in response to what I was talking about.
    The responses were pertaining to the statement you started your question with.

    Posted By: i_like_pizzaWhat's your take on the current trend of games getting massively huge scores from reviewers
    You're starting your question with an assumption, one that many would not agree with. There's two parts to your assumption. One is that games are being scored too high. All outlets are different and score on different scales and those scales change over time (1up most prominently changed how they score in the past year), so it's hard to judge how high a game is being scored in an accurate way vs. say how games were scored five years ago. And some outlets choose to score games based on the current market, so if nothing noteworthy is coming out in February, the game might get a higher score. The other part of your assumption is that games getting high scores is a trend, which I would argue that it is not. Over the past 25ish years of gaming coverage, there have always been games getting scores higher than they deserve. Also, typically games will skew higher on the review scale in the first year or so of a console's life because of the flashy new graphics in the games.

    Posted By: i_like_pizzaI wasn't talking about fiscal growth. I was talking about the evolution of games.
    Even then it makes no sense. The correlation you are making between high review scores and the quality of games doesn't make sense. If you ignore everything I just said and assume that there really is a high review score trend going on right now, I'd say it's still not a problem. Not in my entire life of gaming has there been as much innovation and creativity in video games as there is right now. You are paying too much attention to GTA IV and Mario I'd say. If you look at everything from indie PC devs to flash games to downloadable games to retail, you'll see there is a ton of "growth" going on.

    Posted By: i_like_pizzaThere's certainly no need to be so condescending as you seem.
    Sorry, that's not meant to be condescending, just me vehemently disagreeing :devil:
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    Posted By: drumlordYou're starting your question with an assumption, one that many would not agree with

    And one that many would, seeing as how I cited another source that makes a similar claim to myself. So, many would agree and many wouldn't. That's the case with any claim. What's your point? I never said everyone agrees. I said, "What's your take?"

    Posted By: drumlordOver the past 25ish years of gaming coverage, there have always been games getting scores higher than they deserve

    So?

    Posted By: drumlordAlso, typically games will skew higher on the review scale in the first year or so of a console's life because of the flashy new graphics in the games.

    Nothing to do with what I'm talking about, and again, so?



    Posted By: drumlordEven then it makes no sense. The correlation you are making between high review scores and the quality of games doesn't make sense.

    You have absolutely nothing to back that up with. Nothing. So, if you're going to say my claim doesn't make any sense, why not look at your own pointless claim. It's just an opinion, as you prove in your continuing statements.



    Posted By: drumlordNot in my entire life of gaming has there been as much innovation and creativity in video games as there is right now.


    OPINION, just like mine

    Posted By: drumlordIf you look at everything from indie PC devs to flash games to downloadable games to retail, you'll see there is a ton of "growth" going on.


    And these great indy games don't get the recognition they deserve from reviewers, and thus don't get recognition from the public, STUNTING the growth of the industry, because people just want more of the same. Why the hell do you think Madden sells 8 million copies every year?

    Get over yourself.
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      CommentAuthordrumlord
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     
    Posted By: i_like_pizzaGet over yourself.
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      CommentAuthorscarfy
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     
    I haven't gotten the official conduct rules up yet, but one of them will be no double posting. :)

    Let's try to not make our retorts so personal. Let's all look in the mirror and get over ourselves! :D
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    I've stated my reasons, and whether or not you agree, I think it would be a good topic for the mailbag. I find it extremely hard to believe that everyone thinks the current review system (declared unified or not, you know it is, because pretty much everyone gives the same games the same scores) is fair and right.

    I think it's a good topic, and I would hope not EVERYONE on this site would disagree with me, because I know that almost every person I have ever talked to happens to agree.
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    Also, lets keep discussion here to other forums; make a post if you feel so strongly about a subject. Remember that if you have a question NOT to post it here, but to SEND IT to the mailbag: GAFPodcast@gmail.com.

    I think one of our next topics on the cast is going to approach the review score subject, tho. It's excellent conversation.
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    Posted By: herooftimegafRemember that if you have a question NOT to post it here, but to SEND IT to the mailbag: GAFPodcast@gmail.com.

    Took the words right out of my mouth. Sorry, i_like_pizza, but I hereby dock you -1 points for failing to follow directions.
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    Haha, I didn't read the manual. I'm a guy. If you want me to, I can send you a belated message. And I will direct any further questions to the GAFPodcast email account.
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      CommentAuthorscarfy
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2008
     
    Posted By: i_like_pizzaHaha, I didn't read the manual. I'm a guy.

    Is that why your table has 8 legs and you have a couple of 1 legged chairs?
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      CommentAuthorPolster
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2008
     
    Posted By: i_like_pizzaHaha, I didn't read the manual. I'm a guy.


    I read the manual and I'm a guy. Point?
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      CommentAuthorDJ Tempora
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2008
     
    Posted By: PolsterI read the manual and I'm a guy. Point?

    Yes, what is your point? ;op

    Stereotypes, bro... stereotypes. Pizza's just making a joke because a common criticism leveled at men is that they don't read manuals, diagrams, or maps. It doesn't apply to all males, naturally. You read the manual, I read the manual, Pizza didn't read the manual. It's all kosher. :o)
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      CommentAuthorscarfy
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2008
     
    Psh. whatever. I don't read the manual and I'm a girl but I make the manual soooo.... haha
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      CommentAuthorPolster
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2008
     
    No I made the manual. I added some nice scents to it and it's in pink paper. =P
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      CommentAuthorscarfy
    • CommentTimeSep 7th 2008
     
    hahaha okay Legally Blonde that goes in the movie quotes section!