News - Wii Virtual Console games for 2006 announced, with pricing- UPDATE 2: EU list
Posted by
Josh Freund
at 09:58:08 PM EST on 10.31.2006.
Nintendo has finally chosen to reveal the list of titles that will be available for purchase on the Wii's Virtual Console by the end of 2006.
Most of the games for Nintendo systems are 1st-party titles, but there's one 3rd-party title from Tecmo on there as well.
You can also check out the list of games Japan will be getting if you scroll down to the bottom. Don't blame me if it makes you envious.
Now then:
NES - 500 points ($5)
Baseball
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr.
Ice Hockey
The Legend of Zelda
Mario Bros.
Pinball
Soccer
Solomon's Key (Tecmo)
Tennis
Urban Champion
Wario's Woods
SNES - 800 points ($8)
F-Zero
SimCity
N64 - 1000 points ($10)
Super Mario 64
Sega's also taking part in the VC with 9 titles at launch, and more "best of" Genesis selections coming each month. The games will start at 800 Wii points, or $8. Here's the launch list:
Genesis - 800 points ($8)
Altered Beast
Columns
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Ecco the Dolphin
Golden Axe
Gunstar Heroes
Ristar
Sonic the Hedgehog
Space Harrier II
Toe Jam & Earl
And last, but not least,
Hudson's showing support with games from the TurboGrafx-16. They'll have 5 games available in North America and Europe at launch, with 3 more being Japan-only. Games will start at 600 points, or $6.
TG-16 - 600 points ($6)
Bomberman '93 (NA, Europe)
Bonk's Adventure (NA, Europe)
Dungeon Explorer (NA, Europe)
Super Star Soldier (NA, Europe)
Victory Run (NA, Europe)
Bomberman '94 (Japan)
Necromancer (Japan)
New Adventure Island (Japan)
Update - Nintendo also announced the titles Japan will be getting at launch. Suffice it to say they're getting a much more extensive selection than us. They also get a break on Genesis pricing.
(credit goes to Chris Kohler from Game|Life for the translated list)
*games only announced for Japan are in bold*
Famicom (NES) - 500 points (500 yen)
Baseball (Nintendo)
Donkey Kong (Nintendo)
Donkey Kong Jr. (Nintendo)
Gradius (Konami)
Go-moku Narabe (Nintendo)
Ice Hockey (Nintendo)
Legend of Kage (Taito)
Legend of Zelda (Nintendo)
Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
Ninja Jajamaru-kun (Jaleco)
Pinball (Nintendo)
Soccer (Nintendo)
Solomon's Key (Tecmo)
Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
Tennis (Nintendo)
Urban Champion (Nintendo)
Wario's Woods (Nintendo)
Xevious (Bandai Namco)
Super Famicom (SNES) - 800 points (800 yen) unless noted
Contra III (Konami)
Donkey Kong Country (Nintendo)
F-Zero (Nintendo)
Fire Emblem: Monsho no Nazo (Nintendo) - 900 pts.
Mario Super Picross (Nintendo)
R-Type III (Irem)
Sim City (Nintendo) - 900 pts.
Street Fighter II (Capcom)
Super Castlevania IV (Konami)
Super Mario World (Nintendo)
Zelda: Link to the Past (Nintendo) - 900 pts.
Nintendo 64 - 1000 points (1000 yen)
Super Mario 64 (Nintendo)
Mega Drive (Sega Genesis) - 600 points (600 yen)
Altered Beast (Sega)
Columns (Sega)
Ecco The Dolphin (Sega)
Golden Axe (Sega)
Gunstar Heroes (Sega)
Puyo Puyo (Sega)
Ristar (Sega)
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi (Sega)
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega)
Space Harrier II (Sega)
Toejam and Earl (Sega)
PC Engine (TG-16) - 600 points (600 yen)
Battle Lode Runner (Hudson)
Bomberman '94 (Hudson)
Bonk's Adventure (Hudson)
Dungeon Explorer (Hudson)
Necromancer (Hudson)
New Adventure Island (Hudson)
Super Star Soldier (Hudson)
Victory Run (Hudson)
UPDATE 2:
Contrary to early expectations, the European Wii owners out there will not get a raw deal compared to their North American brethren. The Virtual Console in Europe will get every single game that America gets, plue one:
Donkey Kong Country, for the SNES.
EU readers, you may now commence to sighs of relief. ;)
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swerk 11.2.2006 at 07:04:43 PM
I KNEW Nintendo would find a way to irritate me with the Virtual Console!! :^) Eh, my main worry is just getting my hands on a Wii sometime halfway soon. Twilight Princess is top priority, I'll worry about the classics later.
Still, come on. No Donkey Kong Country or Link to the Past in the US at launch? Weak! More Genesis than SNES games, one single N64 title... Very weird.
Then again, why not space 'em out. If I'm gonna rebuy classic games (and I am - it's worth it not to have all that extra crap hooked up to the TV), then I'd honestly rather do it little by little. I don't have any special urge to plunk down an embarassingly large chunk of change to amass my old collections again, plus who's got time to play all the classics when there's a new Zelda to obsess over?
*sigh* Yup. I'm Nintendo's bitch. ...And I don't even mind.
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heartless_king 11.2.2006 at 04:55:11 PM
No problem.
And I'd like to correct an earlier statement. I put at the end of one of my earlier posts about the Wii putting out at 720p. That's been supposedly debunked. It may be true and someone let the cat outta the bag since Nintendo has recently said there are a few more secrets left to reveal (I think one won't even be announced till launch day or they'll leave it for us to uncover). It'd be crazy if they do that.
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mikey 11.2.2006 at 04:29:08 PM
Thanks heartless_king, that's awesome. I really hope that is the case, because it NEEDS to be there.
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heartless_king 11.2.2006 at 03:40:52 PM
Okay, so I'd like to put a piece of this to rest..
Was just watching G4 (yes, I know, g4) and it had their bit from when they went to NYC for Nintendo's big party thing where we found out the price and all. They said that SMW is on the list of VC games that were announced for launch on that day, so unless something went wrong since then and now, SMW will be on there.
There was another game they said that I didn't see on this list, but I can't remember now...
So cold... i'm freezing right now...
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mikey 11.2.2006 at 02:05:38 PM
If you want the Lost Levels, the only other place in NA is on the Game Boy Color game Super Mario Bros. Deluxe.
According to the Wikipedia entry though, the Super Mario Bros. All-Stars version is much more accurate to the original game. I have both Super Mario Bros. Deluxe and Super Mario All-Stars, and though I haven't put much time into "Lost Levels", it's always pretty much bored me.
Interestingly, from what I've read, Miyamoto was actually more involved with Doki Doki Panic than Mario Bros. 2 Japan, so it might be taken that "Super Mario USA" is infact a truer sequel than Lost Levels.
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hypersonicexe 11.2.2006 at 01:51:53 PM
terpfen - I enjoyed the SNES revamps, too. Kinda made everything uniform. But I'm talking about on average.
Drumlord - "Isn't All-Stars the only place to get Lost Levels? Yeah, I'll take that."
I know I'm being a dreamer, here, but I'd like to play the NES Lost Levels (or should I say, SMB2 in Japan).
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mikey 11.2.2006 at 12:23:05 PM
I was going to start a new account, but since I can't, for the rest of this post my new name is:
nekofrogisadoofusisacheesedickhomoface
I've never believed that the Virtual Console wasn't going to kick ass... In fact, I hold it in almost as high of regard as the new control scheme. I'm just still in disbelief that Nintendo would make people wait for Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario World. Can you imagine how many people will boot up their console and expect that Nintendo's service which allows them to "download classic games", wouldn't let them download the game that launched with the NES, and is arguably the most important game of all time?
I already have Megaman Anniversary Collection, Sonic Mega Collection, and Animal Crossing on Gamecube so I'm pretty OK for classic gaming for a while. I'll probably be satisfied with F-Zero, Wario Woods, and Gunstar Heroes at launch (or whenever, still not sure if I'm going to save my money and get it closer to the new-year).
So just so you know, I wasn't dissapointed about not having 20 games that I want to buy all at once at launch, but it's more the significance that some of these titles carry, and not having access to games that seem like a given with something like this. I mean, SEGA gave us Sonic the Hedgehog at launch.
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nekofrogisadoofus 11.2.2006 at 11:18:27 AM
"Problem with that lake, animetayl, is that it is so murky and polluted, that you can't discern anything and have no idea what's in store for you if you hop in."
Then don't jump in the lake, Doofus. Nobody is forcing you to. Wait a year and let things pan out for a bit until you feel it's safe for your fragility. Tell Nintendo how you feel by not giving them any of your money, Stud. Cheers.
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cutriss 11.2.2006 at 11:12:20 AM
If they had 400 SNES games listed without Chrono Trigger, I'd ask you if you were looking at the EU list.
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drumlord 11.2.2006 at 10:05:01 AM
What is this, analogy twisting time? It's better without analogy anyway and just looking at facts. The Genesis lineup on its own is almost all great games and I bet not a single person on here is buying all of them at launch. Therefore, any complaints that there isn't enough there is just bull. Maybe they didn't include the game you want, but that's completely different. If they had 400 SNES games listed and Chrono Trigger was absent, there would be just as many people complaining that it wasn't there so the lineup is crap.
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nekofrog 11.2.2006 at 10:01:28 AM
Problem with that lake, animetayl, is that it is so murky and polluted, that you can't discern anything and have no idea what's in store for you if you hop in.
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dj tempora 11.2.2006 at 04:13:00 AM
Haha... here's a gold star for most random but pertinent analogy ever, animetayl.
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animetayl 11.2.2006 at 03:58:55 AM
*sigh* Why with all the 'suckage' comments? This is only for the duration of a month and a half from the time the Wii is launched until the end of the year. Do people not think that the Virtual Console lineup will have more come January? Just how many games are you planning on buying and playing all at once?
"living in america sucks more for nintendo fans each generation."
Sheesh. You'd think this is the be all and end all of the virtual console lineup. If you base how Nintendo treats a region strictly on a mere starting lineup of games, instead of looking into a lake and seeing the depth of possibilities, you're looking into a puddle and seeing the mud at the bottom. Try looking into a lake.
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wellness 11.2.2006 at 02:23:44 AM
See even our deprived Euro brothers get a slightly sweeter lineup.
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jcgamer60 11.2.2006 at 01:54:26 AM
No mario 3?
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dj tempora 11.2.2006 at 01:33:39 AM
Yeah yaz, if you're going to add one game, DKC is a pretty sweet addition.
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drumlord 11.2.2006 at 01:33:19 AM
Isn't All-Stars the only place to get Lost Levels? Yeah, I'll take that.
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yaztimbenzo 11.2.2006 at 01:30:05 AM
now even europe pwns us
living in america sucks more for nintendo fans each generation.
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terpfen 11.2.2006 at 12:47:21 AM
"Will we see Super Mario All-Stars for the VC? I doubt it, because people usually liked the original versions of the game over the SNES revamps."
Speak for yourself. I liked All-Stars more than the original games. The originals have their own appeal, but if you give me a choice between one copy each of the original games or one copy of All-Stars, I'll take All-Stars.
Nintendo wants it both ways. I guarantee that they'll release All-Stars only after releasing all of the Mario games All-Stars collects.
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sirusd 11.1.2006 at 11:46:06 PM
Actually, I prefered the SNES vesrion of Super Mario Bros. 3...
And it is true that while the VC is a nice feature to compete with the backwards compatibility of the PS3 and to some extent the Xbox360, no one is going to go rush out to buy the Wii for it.
It's just a gimmick. No more, no less.
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capness1228 11.1.2006 at 11:18:05 PM
I kind of figured they just wanted people to consentrate on the Sega games to try and convince other third party companies to throw their hat in.
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hypersonicexe 11.1.2006 at 10:45:46 PM
terpfen - I thought for sure that with all the Super Mario Advance games, there would be another "Super Mario All-Stars" for GBA or NDS.
Will we see Super Mario All-Stars for the VC? I doubt it, because people usually liked the original versions of the game over the SNES revamps.
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terpfen 11.1.2006 at 10:29:22 PM
"Where is Super Mario All-Stars?"
It'll get released a few months after Nintendo gets around to releasing all of the games All-Stars includes. Just to wring as much money out of you as possible. And people will unflinchingly consent, because Nintendo can do no wrong.
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terpfen 11.1.2006 at 10:18:52 PM
"I swear to Belldandy, absolutely no one here has even considered that while Nintendo might have gotten the rights for these games in Japan, they might not have aquired the rights for them in the US."
Nevermind that Nintendo's had about 2 years to secure the rights to basically give third party developers free money.
"Heh, Startropics would be a pointless VC game unless:
a) They provide you with a scan of the instruction book with the password revealed
b) They took out the secret password from the game"
Well, it was just an example of how there are better games worth putting up.
And they CAN provide scans of the instruction manual with the download. That shouldn't be too difficult in the era of PDF.
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nekofrogisadoofus 11.1.2006 at 10:17:23 PM
Lovely! This is the system Nintendo used to select their US Virtual Console launch games:
Put the names of every game for NES, SNES and N64 on slips of paper and put them in a hat. Select 15.
5$ for NES games? A little steep, don't you think? Only time will tell if it works out for Nintendo. Although I seriously doubt Doofus will pay 5$ for Pinball or Tennis, especially without improved graphics or WiiConnect24 support. Thank you.
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jurban 11.1.2006 at 09:46:20 PM
They announced Super Mario World as a Virtual Console launch game at their gamers day a month or so ago.
And forget Super Mario Bros. Where is Super Mario All-Stars?
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oystergod 11.1.2006 at 09:28:36 PM
Honestly I am quite surprised to see that Super Mario World isn't one of the first SNES titles. :-\
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yaztimbenzo 11.1.2006 at 09:25:27 PM
i never said N64 Zeldas ran at 60 fps. they still run at the same old 20-24 fps (yep, that low)
i was talking about how sharp and clear the image looks compared to N64.
Nintendo said they would upgrade N64 games to run at 60 fps when they become available. i'll get SM64 to check that.
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heartless_king 11.1.2006 at 09:22:07 PM
Actually Mikey, yes I have read the news articles. I read the original one as it was posted on Kotaku and was about to submit the news tip just as I noticed that someone had beat me to it. I read every word of it (which makes me wonder if the person that tipped the news piece to Josh noticed that the list of actual Wii games for launch or shortly after was a part of the full article as well.
Quoting directly now: "Many third party titles are still being locked down, though most will launch by the end of November. V.C. list games will be available by mid to late december".
I can see how you would get those words minced, but notice the first part of the first sentence. They are still locking down games. This actually gives strong validity to Rurounziel's argument.
My biggest bitch is you are all jumping to the most negative possible conclusion about this when all that it means is that this is still an open thing, not closed. These titles are solid and locked in, while there most likely will be more. Even if there isn't, it would be a month and a half before we start getting more, and I'm pretty sure we can all keep ourselves occupied with Zelda and some of the other games till some of the better V.C. POSSIBLE games come out. Nowhere were we ever guarenteed that we would get a lot of the games we are crying out for.
Now I am going to go rest and read this new article I found about the Wii putting out in 720p.
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 09:03:57 PM
...and what I'm saying heartless_king, is that nowhere is there any indication that we'll be getting "more games in a week" or whatever. Have you even read the news stories about this? They claim that these will be the games available by the end of '06. We actually don't even know if these (crappy) games will all be available at launch. Stop talking out of your ass.
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scarecrow9 11.1.2006 at 08:13:12 PM
*agrees with heartles_king*
Very well said.
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heartless_king 11.1.2006 at 07:06:35 PM
Are people this desperate for something to nag about now that they're being ridiculously short sighted?
most of the people I've seen say they are "so majorly upset" by this are the same ones that have been bashing the wii since the beginning. Also the same people that never have anything positive to say too.
This is launch day folks. I think Paul got it right when he said that we are getting the console first, almost a whole month ahead, so it is highly possible we're getting the short end of the stick because they won't have them ready by the Nov 19th launch.
They'll give us what we want. Again, this is available at launch. I'd give it a week after launch and we'll see more games.
Sheesh.
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nekofrog 11.1.2006 at 06:50:43 PM
GC Zeldas still run at 30fps.
I don't know where you're pulling your info from, but framerate is usually locked at a specific level (and never allowed to exceed, such as with Zelda), for a reason.
It can mess with events and specific timing of them.
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yaztimbenzo 11.1.2006 at 05:55:22 PM
N64 games will run at 60 fps and with higher resolutions.
$10 to save my eyes is a good price to pay. you would be surprised at how horrible OoT and MM look on N64 compared to the GC versions (especially if you own a GC component cable) and those were just straight emulation.
i would repurchase all my N64 favorites just for this advantage
(and that's why i'm so worried about F-Zero X Expansion Kit. it was a japan only game and it is my #1 N64 game)
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guy_tota 11.1.2006 at 05:45:11 PM
"Fire Emblem: Monsho no Nazo (Nintendo) - 900 pts. "
Curse you Japan. *shakes fist*
Eh, it's about what I expected, HOPEFULLY they'll add Earthbound eventually and maybe put some surprises in there...(Translation of FE4 and FE5 please and original SFC Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean? ;_;)
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 05:36:25 PM
Paul Gale, this is what I'm angry about... from what I've read, these are the only games that NA and Euruope will be getting till the end of the year. Hence when I said that a game as ubiquitous with "Nintendo" as Super Mario Bros. will not be available until sometime next year. If the games are indeed released at the end of the month, this might mean until February or later.
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ecureuil 11.1.2006 at 05:23:34 PM
rurounizel - you missed my point. The ONLY reason why NoJ or NoA would stop a game being released, is if there's no financial gain in it. Why did SoA deny Sakura Taisen a release? Simply because it the cost of manufacturing it, sorting out appropriate release licensing and getting it out on shelves would be higher than the probable income of the game. They would lose money, and they don't want to lose money on it.
A company wouldn't stop a release if there was a profit to be made, and with the VC, distribution of these titles is very cheap and risk free.
Steam manages to get worldwide releases on all their games, and Valve are a tiny company in comparison to Nintendo.
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paul_gale 11.1.2006 at 05:23:07 PM
It's unfortunate to see that US and Europe are not getting all of the big games Japan gets at launch. Then again, we DO get the system first, so maybe on December 2nd, those Japanese only NES, SNES, Genesis, and TF-16 games will be available in the US as well.
If not, then I want them by December 31st. And Nintendo, please make sure that SUPER Mario Bros. is available day one.
Paul Gale
1up.com
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zyrac 11.1.2006 at 05:15:35 PM
I'm disgusted by people complaining about the prices. If you think 10 dollars for an N64 game is expensive... well you're wrong. Would it help if I reminded you that downloading ROMs is illegal? Didn't think so.
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nekofrog 11.1.2006 at 05:04:12 PM
You made absolutely no sense whatsoever, scarecrow.
But for you, that's par for the course.
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scarecrow9 11.1.2006 at 04:52:49 PM
Listening to 80% of you people is like listening to 5 year olds who want everything when they say and how they say.
While the people at Nintendo are just celebrating and having fun. Same applies to SONY.
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 03:47:30 PM
So you live in Japan then dscuber? Because people in NA won't be getting Super Mario Bros. at launch. You'll have to wait til sometime in 2007. Aren't you glad that Nintendo is so on the ball?
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cutriss 11.1.2006 at 03:30:07 PM
Proppat - I'm reasonably sure they're going to have instructions available for the games. Many of those NES games are completely non-intuitive to sit down and play.
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dscuber9000 11.1.2006 at 03:18:30 PM
I'm still waiting for Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and Ocarina of Time,then, eh? Oh well, there's still a great list for launch if you ask me. Super Mario
Bros. will probably be my first download since that was the first game I've ever played.
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jesusfreakdk 11.1.2006 at 02:58:59 PM
Shrug. Disappointing for sure, but I'm still barely getting caught up to this generation, and I've got tons of games left to play on PS2, so that's what I'll be doing for awhile. Hopefully by the time I get around to buying a Wii, the selection of VC games will have increased significantly.
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proppat 11.1.2006 at 02:54:40 PM
Heh, Startropics would be a pointless VC game unless:
a) They provide you with a scan of the instruction book with the password revealed
b) They took out the secret password from the game
-or-
c) They expect everyone to go to gamefaqs.
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jekku 11.1.2006 at 02:33:03 PM
Regarding VIRTUAL CONSOLE PRICES:
Here, I'll copy and paste a blog I made about virtual console prices. The blog was targeted at N64 games but I suppose it can go for all virtual console platforms (not all games). Here it is:
"Look, I'm sick of hearing about the overpriced virtual console. I haven't really been paying attention here at GAF. But, I want throw out what I think here. I also posted this at GameFAQs.
Are you really that pissed about it? Look. It's simple! Here is what I have to say:
1. If you think the games are overpriced, then don't buy them. o__o Go buy the cartridge for cheaper somewhere else.
2. Wait. You don't have an N64? Well, that's $20 that you need to give away in order to get the system. I'll just assume that comes with a controller. The game you want to buy costs five bucks? Okay. So, that's about $25 plus tax.
I'll buy the game on the virtual console. thx.
3. Oh? You already have an N64. But, the game you want is $15. Okay. Okay. Why are you buying the cartridge for $15 (plus tax) when you can get it for $10?
4. Oh. Wait. You have an N64 and the cartridge only costs $7. Okay. So, buy the cartridge.
What is the big deal?"
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dj tempora 11.1.2006 at 02:32:35 PM
I'm as lukewarm about the NA list as anyone, but come on. F-Zero is godlike.
Mmm.
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d.lo 11.1.2006 at 02:27:46 PM
"I expect that a small part of me will die when I see the European list"
Well, we already know a lot of the Australia list (at least for NES and SNES) because they were submitted for classification to the government - and it's mostly the same - although we'll also get Link to the past.
So I'd say Europe will be alright.
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rurounizel 11.1.2006 at 02:25:20 PM
NoJ and NoA are considered seperate companies, though they share the name of Nintendo. All companies like this are.
Take Square-Enix for example. Drakengard 2 was published in Japan by SE, but in America by Ubi-Soft.
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zyrac 11.1.2006 at 02:19:26 PM
I expect that a small part of me will die when I see the European list.
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racebannon 11.1.2006 at 02:18:38 PM
Who cares, just pull out your old copy of Star Tropics and your lunker NES that you love and play away. The original NES controllers are the best anyways.
As for the Wii, this is a cool add on. Ehm, ADD ON. I know I'm buying the Wii for Wii games. That's why I'm buying the Wii. For Wii games. Did I say that already? VC is cool I guess. Could be better. Could be worse. In the end, it doesn't really matter all that much.
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 02:18:26 PM
rurounizel, what the hell? Are you saying that Nintendo would have a hard time getting us Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, and LoZ: A Link to the Past? With those games alone, I would have found this list to be sufficient.
Honestly, what's so hard to understand about this? All I expected was maybe 2-3 good games for each system, and a few "filler games". I can only see two games worth spending money on from the NES selection, which is by far the largest of the lists. I AM very pleased to get F-Zero at launch, but it doesn't make up for the absense of Mario World. Nintendo better surprise us by packing in Super Mario Bros. and/or Super Mario World.
All I'm really worried about is that Nintendo will adopt a "worst first" policy of giving us a string of bad games in North America. This way when a good game arrives, it will seem like the second coming of Christ or something. I know that the list will get bigger, but we shouldn't HAVE to wait for games like Mario World which should be a given at the launch of something like this.
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rurounizel 11.1.2006 at 02:16:21 PM
My point is that Nintendo of America might go to Konami of America and say "We want Gradius" and they might say "Sorry, you've got to talk to our execs at KoJ" and so on and so forth. Esp. since online distribution is such a new field, negotiation the rights for all the parts in various territories can get tricky sometimes...
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ecureuil 11.1.2006 at 02:10:01 PM
rurounizel - but the thing is, this is online distribution. Part of the reason for games not making it out of Japan, is that production, localization, marketing is too expensive compared to the return that the game will bring in.
With an online system, there may be a few licensing issues, but the cost of releasing a game over the internet is so cheap in comparison to releasing it in shops. Isn't this what online distribution is all about? Allowing easy access to any global content. We shouldn't be restricted by this, there's no excuse.
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d.lo 11.1.2006 at 02:01:19 PM
Funny thing is I wasn't even defending this list. I was defending the VC altogether, which is hardly 'screwed' when it 'only' has 30 games at launch (compared to XBLA which only has 34 games even though it's almost a year old).
Anyway...
One major problem with the VC is that some NES and SNES games are clearly worth more then others. Super Mario Bros 3 and Castlevania 3 will both cost the same as Donkey Kong here - that's a problem. DK should be a buck - but I'd pay $10 for CV3 in 480p.
THIS is what Nintendo should think about. But then again, apart from a few (maybe 10) I'm not going to buy any games I already have anyway - I'm going to use the VC to get me some Earthbound for less then $100. When it comes to rare and in-demand games, the VC is a total bargain.
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rurounizel 11.1.2006 at 01:58:13 PM
I swear to Belldandy, absolutely no one here has even considered that while Nintendo might have gotten the rights for these games in Japan, they might not have aquired the rights for them in the US. Sometimes US companies hold stuff up, or completely stop it for virtually no reason, despite what their Japanese counterpart wants, and visa versa.
Case in point: Sakura Taisen. Sega of Japan wanted to bring this to America. Twice. I know in one case (Saturn) WD tried to help them get it here, but both attempts were stopped dead in their tracks. By who?
Sega of America. Just because they're a "Sega" doesn't mean that SoJ and SoA are on the same wavelength.
Nintendo of America is probably working on the rights to a lot of those games to bring them to the US, but maybe NoJ is holding them back at the moment. Rights to this kind of stuff often times end up in so much red-tape that sometimes it's impossible to find out who owns the rights to what, and then when you do find who owns the rights, they charge an excruciating amount of money, making it not worth the purchase.
There's a lot more to this than most people think, and if they don't believe that they're just ignorant about how contracts work.
We'll get them eventually. So show some friggin' patience people!
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fillerbunny9 11.1.2006 at 01:51:17 PM
they really should have at least given the US Super Mario Bros instead of just plain Mario Bros. I mean really, they have packaged the hell out of that game by putting a version on every GBA classic Mario game. (outside of the Classic Series SMB.) that's 4 different games on the GBA to have MB.
I am also VERY jealous of Zelda 3, Contra 3, Picross, Castlevania 4, AND Street Fighter II for the japanese.
c'mon NOA, that's just a slap in the face!
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 01:35:44 PM
I can see about 4 games on there that I would want to get... Might sound like "plenty", but that's 4 games, from 5 systems with large libraries of games. Rather sad. From the Japanese list I see about another 7 that I want. 11>4.
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ecureuil 11.1.2006 at 01:31:27 PM
Nintendo has already said Japan will get VC games that nowhere else gets. It's even worse if you have a PAL Wii, since you'll get even less than the US.
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dizzy don mega 11.1.2006 at 01:12:37 PM
That is true. I'm sure we'll get these games sooner or later.
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ecureuil 11.1.2006 at 01:05:50 PM
Japan gets all the good stuff, the rest of us get screwed over.
New generation, same old crap.
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nekofrog 11.1.2006 at 12:56:28 PM
No, sorry, it's not acceptable, even if it's at launch.
Say it all you want, it doesn't make it true.
What would be acceptable? Japan's list of games, at the very least.
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hypersonicexe 11.1.2006 at 12:47:57 PM
nekofrog - "Terrible list, terrible pricing, a terrible start to the "virtual console" aspect of the Wii. Flame away, but it's pretty much the truth."
It does need a lot of beefing up. And it will get it. But for right now, this is acceptable since it's at-launch.
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jlkeeton 11.1.2006 at 12:41:52 PM
I liked Golf... and Kung Fu!
Even with the less generic name, I'm happy 10 Yard Fight is not on there - that game was like watching molasses run down a jar. :-)
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cutriss 11.1.2006 at 12:26:53 PM
I think it's funny how people are slamming them (rightfully) for putting up games like Tennis and Baseball and Ice Hockey, when Golf was actually somewhat decent (for the day), and it's not there. :P
It's also kinda funny that they have such generic, bland names for their first runs with Baseball and Ice Hockey, and yet the football game is "10 Yard Fight".
Also, since we're basically airing out Animal Crossing here, where's Clu-Clu Land? :P
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terpfen 11.1.2006 at 12:23:22 PM
"As much as anyone wants to complain about this, it's not like the Virtual Console was ever the selling point of the Wii."
The Virtual Console has always been a primary selling point of the Wii. Why else would I shell out $250 for a console that, by Nintendo's admission, is merely a retooled Gamecube with a prettier case?
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demoncrono 11.1.2006 at 12:19:54 PM
it would have been neat if they had all their systems' launch titles on the virtual console for launch.
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byourdan 11.1.2006 at 12:15:08 PM
I dunno why people bitch about the pricing structure. It's pretty much dead on with the current market value (shipped) if you check for the actual used carts online...ebay...amazon...ect. On another note, I do feel the list is a little skimpy, especially when compared to the games Japan is getting; particularly the SNES category. Japan is getting several high calibur blockbusters...and we get Sim-City and F-Zero...lame.
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outlawgamer7 11.1.2006 at 12:14:37 PM
Dang Japan gets the better SNES games...
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jlkeeton 11.1.2006 at 12:13:32 PM
My comments were really about putting some better games on the table, not the volume available. I agree about the reason to not put everything out there from day 1, but Nintendo is putting out some really basic NES games like Tennis, Soccer, etc that just weren't that good of games to begin with. I would have expected a couple more higher profile titles besides LoZ from Nintendo - such as Kid Icarus or even Kirby. You don't want to put them all out there but you don't want to put things out there that not many people would be interested in. I have so many copies of LoZ that I was hoping for something else. Bad download sales could mean third parties may be reluctant to jump in. I'm sure it is more than just dumping a ROM on there, so there's gotta be a cost involved to get your game on the download service. It's such a nice service to have that I don't want it to collapse or go into obscurity. I think the SEGA titles will outshine the Nintendo ones and possibly convince other third parties to join in.
My thoughts about competing with Wii game sales is valid IMO. Nintendo had a hard time with third parties coming on board, especially the GC. I could see Nintendo not wanting to put too many must-haves out at once so not to detract from selling some Wii games or accessories. If you spent 30-50$ on downloads, you might not pick up Red Steel or another Third Party title. If you spent 10-15$, it might not make that big of an impact.
Double-edged sword to me - don't offer enough and you lose interest in the service vs offering too many good titles and risking sales of Wii games. I think we're leaning toward the not offerring enough to keep interst (without the SEGA impact).
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heartless_king 11.1.2006 at 12:11:41 PM
This is a rather craptastic list. I know it'll get better in the following weeks/months/years, but this opening day list is rather dissapointing. I forsee (and my forseeing abilities are in high gear now. 100% accuracy the last 5 days), is that they will do Mario All-Star like packages with some of the bigger name games. I can see a all-in-one zelda package and an all-in-one metroid package in the future. I can see sega doing an all-in-one Sonic package as well.
What I want to see is Nintendo announce that GB, GBC, and GBA games will be available for V.C. download as well. That would be sick.
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70m 11.1.2006 at 12:04:23 PM
I think the Japanese list is the appropriate list for the American market, with the possible exception of Fire Emblem and a couple of those NES games. If it was the American list and I get a Wii on launch, I would have gotten Donkey Kong Country and Castlevania, but at least Sega is more supportive and I can get Gunstar Heroes and Toejam and Earl. And Bonk's Adventure. I just hope Nintendo keeps releasing games and I don't have to wait 4-5 years for the games I want simply for marketing reasons.
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drumlord 11.1.2006 at 11:36:50 AM
"Is Nintendo just not putting the goods out there to try to sell Wii games???"
This is basically a response to many of the complaints on the library selection. There are two key reasons why the initial downloadable library is not large.
1) Every game Nintendo releases is a competitor to not only its Wii games, but third party Wii and downloadable games. Third parties list Nintendo being a competitor as a top reason they don't like to put games on Nintendo systems (yes, there used to be more in the cart days when Nintendo was fairly evil in its business practices, but having lost their stranglehold on the industry, those are all but gone)
2) If they release 100-200 games at launch, they are guaranteeing two things. Most of them will be ignored for the very top calibur games. How many people would drop $250 on downloadable games day 1? Not many but over the course of 5 years? It's possible. And if they release all the good games up front, they won't have anything left to dish out for the next 5 years.
You guys need to keep in mind that while the virtual console seems like a present to fanboys, it's meant to be an integral part of the Wii business plan, just like XBLA is to Microsoft. Think iTunes Music Store for its first few years. Because of licensing issues, it had to go through a period of growth before it had 2 million songs available.
However, these statements do not mean I don't find the US list sad and pathetic.
"No, the reason they cost that much is because they can get away with it."
This is an accurate statement. It's how pricing works in all industries. Whatever the market will tolerate is what the prices will be. If the market does not tolerate the pricing, they will change. However, I do not expect these to change when you consider people will pay for all kinds of ridiculous crap on Xbox Live Marketplace. At least in this case you are paying too much for actual games.
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drk 11.1.2006 at 11:31:48 AM
Yeah, wow. I was planning on waiting in line for a Wii at Best Buy, but seriously... what the hell is this?
Nintendo's retarded. I have no reason to waste a god damn night in the cold for Sim City. I'll just buy one off the shelf whenever they become available.
Way to eliminate all my hype for your console, and in one fell swoop, Nintendo.
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i_like_pizza 11.1.2006 at 11:31:15 AM
As much as anyone wants to complain about this, it's not like the Virtual Console was ever the selling point of the Wii. It's all about the Wiimote. There aren't 100 million nostalgic gamers who are going to buy the Wii just for the VC, so why should Nintendo care whether the VC opens with a bang or not? The success of this console is riding on its controller, not on its features.
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terpfen 11.1.2006 at 11:16:07 AM
"Nobody NEEDS to defend this particular list, because we all know many, many more games will come."
Except we don't know what's coming. We've yet to see a release list of third-party games. (I'm sorry, one Tecmo game doesn't count.)
Let me know when I can download Lufia 2, an officially-translated Seiken Densetsu 3, Link to the Past, Mischief Makers, and Paper Mario. Then we'll talk.
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jlkeeton 11.1.2006 at 11:11:31 AM
Is Nintendo just not putting the goods out there to try to sell Wii games??? The NES selection is OK albeit early NES titles that were not showcases besides LoZ. The SNES and N64 downloads are disappointing. Sim City? I can understand F-Zero, but I'm shocked we don't have something like Pilotwings.
The big saving grace is SEGA - Gunstar Heroes is absolutely worth the purchase if you haven't played it (or haven't played it in a while). Now, if we'd only get Guardian Heroes for the Saturn! I wonder if they're even considering it b/c of the large data files it would require??? The fact they're planning new games at the end of each month might mean we get more than those 9 by the end of year - fingers crossed for Strider or Revenge of Shinobi. :-)
I want to see the TG-16 Legendary Axe and Devil's Crush come out. That's one system I had to put on the back burner b/c of lack of cash to buy Genesis and SNES games back in the 80$/game days.
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No, the reason they cost that much is because they can get away with it.
"Convenience" is no excuse for high prices on 15+ year old games.
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drizzt 11.1.2006 at 11:05:14 AM
Well have fun blowing in all those carts demonchrono also have fun finding a tg16 with controllers and games. Theses a reason they cost that much... convenience.
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sirusd 11.1.2006 at 10:55:14 AM
Wow... you can't say anything on here negative about Nintendo without the fanboys lynching you.
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demoncrono 11.1.2006 at 10:29:02 AM
these are far more expensive then i thought they would be.
I would rather go to m local game store and buy the actual game for more then half these prices.
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nekofrog 11.1.2006 at 10:04:30 AM
d.lo, your argument holds no water. We are not discussing the future list and releases, we are discussing the PRESENT, and the list given to us NOW.
Just LOOK at the two, the Japanese and the US list. The US clearly gets shafted in just about every system category. The business model that Nintendo seems to be planning for the Virtual Console pretty much eliminates the appeal of a VC in the first place.
Why do I have to wait for them to rerelease something that doesn't need to be waited on? Why do I have to sit and wait as they release games that they have already ported a multitude of times to their own systems for decades?
This is a ridiculous way of running the Virtual Console, but what do you expect from Nintendo? They are the best in the business as taking a BRILLIANT idea and then APPLYING it in the most retarded manner possible (Friend codes being yet another example).
But go ahead, d.lo. Call me an idiot for having an opinion that differs from yours. That's your usual response, and it's the only one you ever give.
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beavis christ 11.1.2006 at 09:42:06 AM
I have to pretty much agree with the detractors at this point. Japan's list looks far superior. I would prefer to play these games on a console and I'd be happy to pay for them once the list makes me care. I am not going to stop emulating games because Nintendo releases two SNES games.
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ryucheese 11.1.2006 at 09:20:17 AM
It would be nice if after Nintendo runs out of old NES and SNES games to release on VC, they start releasing new versions of old games. Maybe Mario 3 with new levels. Or an all new Mega Man 9 with NES graphics. Or Balloon Fight Online. There are lots of possibilities.
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rahvii 11.1.2006 at 08:58:55 AM
We all know what nintendo is doing, if we get all the games or a big bunch of them we are not goint to buy them all, even our favorites.
But if they release them in packages every month or so, is gonna be a lot more exciting and we'll be buying them as they release.
Is just smart, and anyway, initaly i want my wii to play wiimote games, i want to play the new zelda, redsteel, all that stuff. When i get a little tired of those ill go check the Wii "Marketplace", but for now, who cares?, unless you are buying Wii only for the VC.
Ah, and by the way, we are lauching earlier than japan, so perhaps we will get the games (at least first party games) when japan gets their Wiis. Now, if by then we still dont get them, or even this year... now that would be sad :(.
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proppat 11.1.2006 at 08:55:51 AM
Nintendo really should have priced these $2 less a pop. The only titles that are really interesting to me are the TG-16 ones. You can buy the physical cartridge for most of the other games for the same price or less than what Nintendo wants for the download.
Although, I'm sure this will be appealing to the non-collector crowd. Most of us here are in the minority.
Also, I have pitty on the fool who pays $8 to play Alterd Beast. Now that's a game that doesn't pass the test of time...
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jekku 11.1.2006 at 08:16:49 AM
::Hugs d.lo::
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d.lo 11.1.2006 at 07:47:45 AM
"Are you seriously defending this list?"
Nobody NEEDS to defend this particular list, because we all know many, many more games will come. The US gets the console a week before Japan - maybe more games will be added even before Japan gets the console!
Haters and morons are writing off the VC altogether because of an insignifigant detail - which is all the 'day 1' list is. There are at least 10 great games there, how many are you going to buy in a bloody week?
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biocat 11.1.2006 at 06:59:55 AM
Sweet.
Eat it, North America!
I guess we know who Nintendo likes more. Maybe if you guys had bought more DS's you wouldn't have such a puny list. =P
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 05:58:35 AM
Are you seriously defending this list? It's not like we don't have anything to compare the NA list against, because the Japanese list is RIGHT THERE, and it is MUCH LONGER. I don't care about Wii games as far as this discussion is concerned, what I care about in my argument is how many VIRTUAL CONSOLE games we get at launch. Just because we're getting Zelda at launch doesn't magically turn this list into Cuppy-cake Gumdrops.
I don't even care much about old Mario games anymore, I've played Super Mario Bros. 1-3 and Super Mario World too many times to count, and Mario 64 even more. I already own multiple versions of these games, and I'm not concerned about not being able to play them right away. I AM concerned however, that I am not being given this option. This is supposed to be a system for casual gamers, and this list of games will seem like even more of a barren wasteland to them. Their use of the virtual console will probably start and stop with Mario and Sonic titles, because those are the games they're familiar with.
Sega was willing to put Sonic the Hedgehog on here, even though they are trying to sell it on it's own as Sonic Genesis for the Game Boy Advance RIGHT NOW. Nintendo, on the other hand, seems to see this as an oppurtunity hold back their biggest titles to slowly advertise a few select games each month in their magazine Nintendo Power, no doubt eventually getting millions of downloads for some of their classics. Don't believe me that Nintendo is capable of trying to turn this list into a good thing in Nintendo Power? These are the guys who when interviewing emo rock bands on their fusion tour will pretend that vague recollections of "playing mario" on the NES constitutes an "old-school gamer".
Just because the list is quite capable of "growing", doesn't make it OK that Nintendo has crippled the service from the beginning with a poor list of titles to choose from.
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thehawk 11.1.2006 at 05:02:59 AM
People are acting like that's all there will ever be on the VC. Yeah, it's a small list, but it'll grow. Do you seriously think you'll want to settle down to some Super Mario World when you've got Twilight Princess? Play the Wii games and watch the VC titles roll in.
I'm more interested in new, original indie games for the VC anyway. Hopefully we'll start to see those trickle in.
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shin gallon 11.1.2006 at 04:35:38 AM
I was really hoping the NES version of Tetris would be on there (the Nintendo version, not the Tengen one).
Maybe in 07 sometime, that's still my favorite version of Tetris, and I don't always feel like dragging out my old NES to play it.
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stigglesworth 11.1.2006 at 04:34:32 AM
Oh, stop it. A start is a start. Do you really want to pay for ANOTHER copy of Super Mario Bros. to augment the 5 other copies you have?
The SNES and N64 lineups are unduly sparse, but if the games on the Japanese release list have already been tried and tested for the Virtual Console, then surely it is just a matter of time.
Although I believe that the majority will want classic titles, my interest in the virtual console concentrates on rare gems that I may have bypassed during the period.
Might I also add the Megadrive lineup is fabulous - throw in Streets of Rage 2 and Landstalker, and i'd possibly have to do a little dance!
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dj tempora 11.1.2006 at 03:58:49 AM
No, -4 karma for poor grammar and spelling, false statements, shortsightedness, and general ineptitude.
Learn to post.
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Aha.
Thats funny.
More people agree that the Virtual console has s*** for games.
Nintendo botched.
I'm just as much of a nintendo fan as anyone else.
You think I like saying nintendo made a terrible choice on release games? I just wanted Castlevaina, Super Mario, classic games that were big hits. Not this Urban Champion s***.
-4 Karma for telling the truth and fan boys not liking it but have no choice to accpet it :)
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mikey 11.1.2006 at 01:58:55 AM
I'm not going to say that Nintendo have "botched" this, as those comments don't seem to go down well in here. I WILL say however, that there is no good excuse for the Japanese list to be SO MUCH BETTER THAN OURS, especially since they are already getting more actual launch titles. We don't get Super Mario Bros. or Super Mario World? Those are games Nintendo has been showing since E3 and in their own magazine, and I mean, THOSE GAMES LAUNCHED WITH THOSE RESPECTIVE SYSTEMS.
Unless The Wii comes with Super Mario Bros. and Super Mario World free, there is no excuse... actually, that would kick a lot of ass, but I won't even pretend I think they'll do it.
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siraileron 11.1.2006 at 01:46:39 AM
This list pretty much tells me that every game is being rebuilt for the Wii, which means it doesn't use the ROMs available throughout the web.
I suppose that's ninty's response to pirates. XD
Of course, this means that more titles will be added as they are finished, so I can still hope to get Battletoads. >_>
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pixy misao 11.1.2006 at 01:15:34 AM
Although I'm sure they will be released eventually... c'mon man! Both Contra and Castlevania for the SFC in Japan, and we don't even get Super Mario World like they promised?
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peak 11.1.2006 at 01:11:42 AM
It's certainly not a botched effort yet, what did they say again? Ten new games per month? Stretch that over the 4-5 year lifecycle of the console and we get 480-600 games available. Genesis and Turbograpx-titles not included.
Though, the start list is s***. Why do we not even get Super Mario World, or Zelda: A Link to the Past, or Donkey Kong Country? Or bloody Super Mario Bros.? A veery disappointing list.
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d.lo 11.1.2006 at 12:43:02 AM
"bounchfx 10.31.2006 at 11:00:55 PM
the point is that they are saving most of the n64 games and snes games for dead periods and other times, just watch. there's no way that they will just leave it like that, and it is foolish to think that."
Exactly. I can't believe you are so transparent as to claim rationing out VC games is a 'botched effort'. If you really meant it then you're a bit dim terpfen.
And neko, you're a chimp. It's ALREADY a better line-up and cheaper then XBLA, and will clearly have huge headroom.
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yaztimbenzo 11.1.2006 at 12:27:41 AM
wtf
both the Wii lineup and VC lineup suck more here than in japan.
japan gets wario ware smooth moves and lots of SNES goodies and we don't?
at that rate, importing a wii will be better (and i'll do that if F-Zero X expansion kit ends in japanese VC only)
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wellness 11.1.2006 at 12:27:15 AM
I get the sense they are holding back with most of the lineups, especially in NA. I mean no Tecmo Football?
The N64 line is just weak... powerful weak.
Me thinks either they might not have thought its emulation out, or they are only releasing the most popular games (which would be weak) but most of them have either been 2nd party Rare products or games they have planned or will release remakes/sequels to on the Wii or DS.
Still powerful weak.
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yaztimbenzo 11.1.2006 at 12:24:20 AM
sorry but those points are $$$
hence the $$$ signs used everywhere
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Terrible list, terrible pricing, a terrible start to the "virtual console" aspect of the Wii.
Flame away, but it's pretty much the truth.
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tetsuo500 11.1.2006 at 12:13:51 AM
Umm... I can't remember reading about this, but I assume we won't just be paying for Wii points will we? We'll be able to get them by winning online competitions etc. in Wii games as well won't we?
If not, I'm not paying actual money for what should be free bonuses.
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jekku 11.1.2006 at 12:06:41 AM
Wow, it's really happening. I can taste the virtual console. LET ME EAT IT!
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-1 Karma?
For pointing out that out of the thousands of games from NES-SNES-N64 they gave us almost the worst line up? They didn't even give us Super Mario, they gave us the "POW" mario lol.
How can you object to the fact the facts that we got screwed?
Oh well, I guess I deserve it.
Brb paying 5 dollars for Mario Bros or ?Urban champion?
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vespertilio 10.31.2006 at 11:58:05 PM
Duuuude, Gunstar heroes? Awesome.
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cutriss 10.31.2006 at 11:53:54 PM
Aw snap. Now I'll have to cancel my US preorder as my wife will insist we buy a Japanese Wii so she can get her Picross on.
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Out of all the NES SNES N64 games were made, they really gave us s*** to start out with.
I mean this is terrible.
But, i'm not fretting too much.
I know someone will hack the Wii so I can download these from free from some website.
Sorry Nintendo, terrible launch on the Virtual console, v e r y dissappointing.
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dizzy don mega 10.31.2006 at 11:36:31 PM
Oh my lord. Bonk's adventure just crapped on everyone's DL list. Screw the ps3 and xbox360!
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hypersonicexe 10.31.2006 at 11:36:20 PM
Genesis - 800 points ($8)
~Gunstar Heroes~
FORGET Metal Slug Anthology, I've got all I need right here!
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mikey 10.31.2006 at 11:33:57 PM
Desperately needs Blades of Steel for NES.
Also, no Phantasy Star? I need old-school RPG's on the virtual console, that's what I was most looking forward to on this thing.
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pook 10.31.2006 at 11:18:26 PM
it's a cool list, and that's just the first couple of months. it's not the best stuff, and i'm only interested in one title: tg-16 "dungeon explorer," but i don't expect them to give out the best stuff first when they don't need to (system will sell out this year anyway).
of course since i'm not getting a wii for some time, it doesn't much matter.
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bounchfx 10.31.2006 at 11:00:55 PM
the point is that they are saving most of the n64 games and snes games for dead periods and other times, just watch. there's no way that they will just leave it like that, and it is foolish to think that. You should be busy playing the wii games anyway, if all you care about is the vc games, play your old games on their respective consoles. until then, just wait and 10 games a month should be enough for you, thats double the release amount of xbla games a month.
yes, some of those games are eh, but I wouldn't want them to release all the awesome games at once (actually, hell yes I would), then not have any great stuff later, they are spacing them out for people which is smart.. I guess ;P
anyway, it's a s***ty thing to complain about.
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geo 10.31.2006 at 10:45:40 PM
Gunstar...^_^
But I want those games on the japanese list. Seriously i hope theres a way to get the japanesegames on there...
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vuffster 10.31.2006 at 10:39:35 PM
Now, the real question is: will Nintendo be nice and translate Fire Emblem: Monsho no Nazo?
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bloodix 10.31.2006 at 10:38:26 PM
odd.
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joesteele 10.31.2006 at 10:32:01 PM
uhh....is it a bad thing that I'm more impressed with the Genesis and TG-16 lineups more than Nintendo's lineup?
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niahak 10.31.2006 at 10:26:33 PM
I'm willing to pay $8 for Gunstar Heroes without lugging my Genesis around.
Other than that... nice choices, but they're all games I have already or don't particularly want.
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bjork 10.31.2006 at 10:23:47 PM
Wow, altered beast is totally not worth $8 at this point...
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terpfen 10.31.2006 at 10:23:19 PM
"terp: how exactly did they botch anything (besides the price?)"
Just look at the lineup. Two SNES games? One N64 game? And who the hell was clamoring for friggin' Donkey Kong Jr over, say, StarTropics?
This is just typical Nintendo. They come up with a good idea, then totally botch the execution. See friend codes.
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bounchfx 10.31.2006 at 10:18:41 PM
terp: how exactly did they botch anything (besides the price?)
it's not like they aren't going to add games.
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bounchfx 10.31.2006 at 10:17:30 PM
I wish they were cheaper :( or came with pre orders
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And Nintendo botches a good thing yet again. Good to see they're still as reliable as ever on that front.
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scarecrow9 10.31.2006 at 10:16:47 PM
Way more games for Japan but it's ok I think I'm being each and every game there.
F-Zero for the win!
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marcel 10.31.2006 at 10:16:06 PM
Man, where are the SNES games for NA?
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drakken 10.31.2006 at 10:14:30 PM
Boy, that Japanese list is a lot better.
And no, it's simply listed as Mario Bros. Weird. :-/
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Nintendo? Do they think that people will pay good money to play games that have been ported numerous times with no enhancements? Who on earth would actually pay money to play Urban Champions?
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eightbitonline 10.31.2006 at 10:10:24 PM
Finally, 8 years later we can continue this SNES vs Genisis debate!
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yaztimbenzo 10.31.2006 at 10:04:11 PM
i wonder if the SM64 version will have rumble support like the second jp version or if it will be exactly like the old one we got.
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elmullet 10.31.2006 at 10:04:01 PM
Gunstar Heroes makes me the happiest camper, as does Toe Jam & Earl. I'll probably end up with Bonk's Adventure as well, being my first TG16 game ever.
Surprisingly, I find the Nintendo line-up a tiny bit lacking. Maybe that's because I already have stuff like the original LoZ on a GC disc. But I see Wario's Woods on the NES list, and THAT was a ton of fun. So at least there's that.
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bloodix 10.31.2006 at 10:01:52 PM
shouldnt that be Super Mario Bros? case without the super part, it is a different game. cause it would be odd that SMB wouldnt be on there
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