I'm not gonna take the time to find a bunch of old articles and forum discussions now, but I clearly remember that many people were predicting that the PSP would be the DS's downfall. It might have been different with developers and industry analysts, as bidingtime's research indicates, but among forumites and gaming websites, the PSP was the cool new kid on the block. It's funny how things turned around.

I love the controller guy.

nekofrog: read anything on 1up, in their podcasts, and on their video show and you'll see plenty of references to how they all though the PSP would win and no longer think that. That applies to the entire range of the Ziff Davis publications, web and print. In their words. If you want an explicit direction to take, it's right there in last week's podcast (and mentioned in most episodes). I saw the same being said in IGN and GameSpot as well.

Saying the PSP would beat out the DS was the position to take before the battle began and for almost a year into the DS's life. GAF was critisized because we didn't believe that would happen. You can obviously argue that many outlets didn't say the PSP would outright win, that it would just steal a major chunk of the market share...and then maybe win years later, or that it would beat the DS but then be beaten by the next Game Boy. The fact is that many major outlets believed the PSP to be a longterm viable competitor to the DS, but unless things change PSP is on its way out.

Your entire line of comments here has been revisionist history. And you are the only one here who could spin people saying that most didn't have faith in Nintendo as something pro-Nintendo. Don't harass people for links because you'd like to pretend things were different. And don't bother asking me for links. This has been my job for over five years and I know full well how things were being covered two years ago.

It doesn't matter that the PSP outsold the DS in the US for almost a year, because in Japan, the DS has always been leagues ahead of the DS.

That means that the DS, worldwide, has outsold the PSP since day one.

mikey> you need to clue yourself in here. If someone makes the claim that all the media was predicting doom and gloom for the DS, and is called on it, it is THEIR obligation to present the evidence to back up their claim.

It is not the responsibility of the obligation to find whatever "fact" (and there is none in this case on his side) to support the opposing arguement.

Sheesh.

Keep the negative karma coming, guys. You obviously can't bear to hear anything that isn't rosy-dosy for Nintendo.

I will be surprised the day I read GAF and find some Nekofrog comments with 5 feedback.

Sorry I didn't get a chance to report on this first-hand, but I had a really important test the day after.

Interestingly enough, I ended up buying a Wii even though I didn't line up - and it was noon on launch day with still no line! I bought it at Shinjuku Yodobashi Camera, which is one of the bigger electronics store in Tokyo. It seems they handed out vouchers the night before instead of having people stay out all night in the cold and they happened to have some left over even in the morning! Nice.

Also, a lot of other stores had pre-order systems in place so all the systems on launch day went to pre-orders only

I still have to see any publication claiming that the PS3 is going to win, so in that line, maybe the PS3 is going the way of the PSP.


I karmad Neko like 4 times =P

Nintendo has a big chance to not be last this time in consoles.

but, will be interesting to see who ends up last.

Any videogame magazine from early 2005.

I can't speak for the others who did it, nekofrog, but I gave you negative karma because you claimed that no one aside from Sony fanboys gave the PSP a chance. A year and a half ago, pretty much every single article on the subject predicted the PSP to be huge. Before it was released, everyone thought DS was a gimmick and possibly the next Virtual Boy.

So I gave you negative karma for using nothing but incorrect information to present an argument. Don't presume to know the motives behind complete strangers' actions. You'll likely be wrong most of the time.

I KNEW I'd get a negative karma for simply predicting a future where Nintendo did not rule the console domain.

Of course, I only used history and facts to do it, unlike the mindless "NINTENDO ROOLZ" post.

Hypersonic: Dec. 6th. Walmart. Was in an ad today that they will have a min. of 3 per store in EVERY store in the US on the 6th. G.U.A.R.A.N.T.E.E.D.

... or however the hell its spelled

yep ever since May 25th. and I wonder how the different consoles sales will look in next weeks hardware sales. does anyone think the DS Lite will continue to sell at least 120K or so?
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Of course Nintendo sold out in Japan, 400,000 was no where the amount they needed. The DS Lite still sells 200,000 a week this far after launch. No surprise.

I can't believe this.

Missed the pre-order by 1.
Camped out on Black Friday, every store but the one I camped out at got them.

And today, my b-day, Circuit City didn't get them, but the store that didn't have the Wiis on Black Friday SOMEHOW had them today, and I missed it.

**** you, Nintendo, and **** you UPS/FedEx.

President? Since when?

Hmm Sega would have to shape up BIG TIME in order to win back my trust, I used to love Sega more than anything back in he Genesis, saturn, dreamcast era. But then they stabbed me in the back.

What a bunch of nutcases
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sirusd, the demand IS still there, but it's not nearly as much as it would have been if the PS3 (whatever its features) had been more affordable. Of course it's going to sell out when they only have enough units to supply the people who REALLY want one enough to spend tons of money on it.

The real question is how many people would be willing to pay $600 for a PS3 if they were readily available.

Byourdan,
Ask yourself this. If the PS3 was more readily available would you have wanted one? Hell, you could ask the same thing about the Wii.

The demand for the PS3 is still there.

I don't think we'll be seeing the 64/PS1 days this gen with respect to the Wii and the others. The Wii is in a league of its own. I do, however, believe that the 360 has an impressive enough line-up over the next 12 months in NA and Europe to give the PlayStation brand's established franchises a run for their money. My crystal ball forecasts many dual-platform games this gen that were formerly PS-exclusives.

Competition is good if the companies are competing for the same thing. Since the game consoles do not play each other's games, it means that in the realm of "Nintendo games" there is no competition, in the realm of "Microsoft games" there is no competition, etc.

If the Wii does more sales in Japan than the PS3 on a consistent basis.... that's it. It'll be PSP vs DS all over again. We'll be playing Final Fantasy VII Wii-Make, and 10+ exclusive SquareEnix titles while the PS3 sits back lonely with FFXIII and FFXIII Versus.. which will end up continually delayed to inject more pointless ramble drama ala FFVII: Crisis Core.

That said, I prefer playing against Japanese opponents on my DS... bring them to me on the Nintendo Wii. They will fall and fall fairly!

Hey, we found that other Wiimote guy's long lost brother. :D

Seriously though, where's his partner, Nunchuk Gal. Together, they fight crime.

Yay! I really hope Nintendo does well this time out.

Nintendo will rise again! *bowser laugh* Bwahahaha!

Wait...

does that mean the Wii outsold the 360s sales for 2006 in one day (for japan that is)

lol@the wiimote guy :D He deserves a Wii. :)

Wow, it looks so crazy over there. And cold. It looks like a lot of people are going to be happy. :)

i wonder how long will it take for Wii to catch up to 360 worldwide.

japan is going to be a massive advantage for Nintendo if Wii sells like DSL there.

imagine if nintendo had more accurately called the demand and met it with production. i'm betting they coulda done 2x their current sales and gotten a nice jump on sony.

Ah sweet, this is too awesome. Nintendo has now sold over 700,000 Wii units in the US and with the 400k just sold in Japan, Wii broke the million mark in just under 2 weeks.

It'll be interesting to see how the Zelda to Wii ratio is in Japan.
Paul Gale
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I hope the guy dressed as the remote got a console. He deserves one more than I do!

I think Nintendo's heading in a bold new direction with the DS and the Wii and it will definitely pay off in Japan; in America, the battle has just begun.